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Old 01-22-2008, 03:10 PM
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Default Vari Viggen Plans Question

Does anyone know if the VariViggen plans had seperate full size templates like the other Rutan designs, or would the complete set of plans be scale drawings in 11"x17" format?

I'm thinking of bidding on a supposedly complete set but if it is not all there I am not interested

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Mike

(PS still not building anything, but working on the airplane shop when its not too cold out)
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: Vari Viggen Plans Question

I just took a real quick look at the plans on the terf cd and it appears that the airfoils are printed at 1/4 scale on 11x17 with a grid background. My guess at this stage is that the TERF-CDs would have all you need including the CP newsletter. But, that said...

Why are you looking at the VariEZE as apposed to a VariEze, Long-EZ or Cozy?

Of course the ideal would be Spaceship II, but I don't think the plans are available and the cost is probably out of most our budgets.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Vari Viggen Plans Question

Thanks - I went on & bought them, I have a set of Long EZ plans but I am not convinced I want to build with foam core/composite construction

I have a bunch of woodworking tools (if I ever get the wall up I could use the shop year round) so the Vari Viggen interested me - plus some of the mods I had considered making to the Long EZ would have resulted in something halfway between the 2

And I like the small of sawdust
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:25 PM
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Well, i love the small of saw dust too, heh heh heh

but i refer to use the best material for the task at hand and to ME the best material for the task at hand is the one that takes the least amount of maintenance over the long run.

wood rots and can cause fasteners placed in it to corrode cause it holds water and expands and contracts with the seasons
aluminum corrodes and fractures, must be alodyned or otherwise protected
Steel rusts and is heavy
titanium is expensive, hard to work and totally cool
Carbon fiber costs mega bucks for a small increase when using hand layup techniques in strength
kevlar suffers from long term moisture degradation
boron fibers would probably be great ifin they did not cost so much
last-a-foam quite simply is susceptible to de-lamination and should not be used at all
pour foam is crap, but i have used a little
polystyrene make a beautiful wing
S & E fiber glass lasts and lasts and lasts
epoxy lasts and lasts and lasts
micro balloons for fill and contouring last and last and last
flox is strong and lasts and lasts and lasts
SS is strong, weldable and resists corrosion and expands allot if heated

inconel doesn't mind heat but expands allot and is very pricey
Hastaloy is as above but costs even more
321 SS is great for exhausts so long as proper slip joints are used
solder joints fail but are good to do on battery cables after a crimp job to seal against corrosion
crimp fittings are great as long as they are properly stress relieved

I love understanding materials and using them for what they like to do
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: Vari Viggen Plans Question

There are a few wood pieces in the long-ez and cozy construction. When ever I need to carve some wood with my plane or spokeshave I sort of wish I was building a wood airplane instead. Still, I can't wait untill I finish off the wings for that wet look when I am done.
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Old 01-29-2008, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Vari Viggen Plans Question

Well, I am now in posession of a set of Variviggen plans in addition to my Long EZ plans

Does anyone know how many pages were different between the original design & the Variviggen SP? I have heard good things about both wing designs & if I could come up with the changed pages I could compare them side to side
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