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Old 09-04-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Steve Fossett missing

Steve Fossett is missing. It would suck for a guy with his aviation acomplishments to be lsot in a rather mundane flying situation. Well, mundane compare to the other stuff he's done...

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Old 09-04-2007, 09:19 PM
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Having seen Steve's balloon wandering across my radar screen a couple of times I hope he is OK.

It would be fairly unusual over here to just blast off somewhere with no indications of where, I would at least leave a flight note with Mum. If somebody has to come looking it concentrates the early search in the area you are most likely to be in. Is it not the same over there?
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:22 AM
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Steve Fossett is missing. It would suck for a guy with his aviation acomplishments to be lsot in a rather mundane flying situation. Well, mundane compare to the other stuff he's done...

Fox news article

it said sel , not baloon
help me here, who is the guy on the right ?
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:47 AM
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it said sel , not baloon
Erm, yah! I don't know what a sel is, but I understand he wasn't in a balloon. You can't see Nevada on my radar screen either...
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help me here, who is the guy on the right ?
Erm, suspect my leg is being pulled here, that is Richard Branson, sponsor of his around the world flight (not in a balloon either)

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Old 09-05-2007, 08:16 AM
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It would be fairly unusual over here to just blast off somewhere with no indications of where, I would at least leave a flight note with Mum. If somebody has to come looking it concentrates the early search in the area you are most likely to be in. Is it not the same over there?
Reporting a flight plan is a good safety measure but some don't do it for just putsing around the skies. It is funny though every year at Rough River fly-in you'll see the sherriff going batty because somebody always forgets to close his flight plan, thus, is assumed missing. I only do it for cross country flights but I'm still renting. My FBO WANTS TO KNOW what I'm up to with his plane.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:03 AM
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I only do it for cross country flights but I'm still renting. My FBO WANTS TO KNOW what I'm up to with his plane.
I generally DON'T file a Flight plan. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever filed one. The problem I see with a Flight Plan is that it only states your start, finish with maybe a couple ways points. In it's day I'm sure it certainly served a purpose.

Instead I almost always pick up flight following after I get airborne. It's comforting to know that I can not bust anyones airspace because I'm always in two-way communication with approach. I also get updates for approaching traffic. Plus if I have any problems in flight, they guy on the other end of the radio know who I am and where I'm at. The only downside, if you consider it a downside, is you have to stay alert and listen to the radio. Personally, I like the technical aspect of talking on the radio.

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Old 09-05-2007, 11:38 AM
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In Canada, we are required to file a flight plan or flight itinerary for any trip more than 25NM. If you don't and go down, they have been known to hand you the SAR bill. You know what a C130 costs per hour?

No flight plan, nowhere to even start to look, why should they even bother. A total waste of resources IMO. It is so easy to do. I feel a lot better if they know about where to look for me if something happens.

Hope Steve is ok somewhere, it would be a tragic way to go after all his flight adventures and danger he has come through to date.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:47 AM
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I'm always in two-way communication with approach.
Ever had it where they're just a bit too busy or sometimes you can't get a following?

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In it's day I'm sure it certainly served a purpose.
Still serves a purpose. Lets them know where to look before the coyotes find you.


I heard this morning the people searching are very confident they'll find he okay somewhere. I'm hoping he just needs a break and he didn't tell anyone where he went. Maybe some place where there's no radio. Could be from one private strip to the next. (hoping)
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:12 PM
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What type of plane was he flying?
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:27 PM
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:52 PM
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In Canada, we are required to file a flight plan or flight itinerary for any trip more than 25NM.
Do you get charged for filing?

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Ever had it where they're just a bit too busy or sometimes you can't get a following?
One time we did. We were flying over Indy's airspace during the morning FedEx rush. We did finally get a response. I think its optional for approach to accept FF, but I've never been denied.

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Still serves a purpose. Lets them know where to look before the coyotes find you.
Sure, I can agree with that. It's certainly better than nothing. I personally like the idea of FF over a flight plan. I'm certainly open to listening to arguments for Flight Plan.


I heard this morning the people searching are very confident they'll find he okay somewhere. I'm hoping he just needs a break and he didn't tell anyone where he went. Maybe some place where there's no radio. Could be from one private strip to the next. (hoping)[/quote]
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:28 AM
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No charge for filing a flight plan here. We pay a pretty reasonable flat fee yearly for unlimited weather, ATC, flight planning services. Works well.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:01 AM
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What sort of flight plan could he have filed? What would he put down as his destination? He was out scouting around for a dry lake bed - that could take him just about anywhere - right? I'm not at all convinced that a flight plan would have been of any use in this scenario. I hope he's OK. With his training and experience and physical fitness, if anyone can survive, he can.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:55 AM
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I think it is well known where the only suitable dry lake bed for a supersonic LSR is (Black Rock). Not sure I buy this story.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:59 AM
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Okay, already.
I'm not suposed to say anything but Steve is over at my place for a few days of R & R.
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