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Old 06-11-2007, 07:41 PM
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Oh, I noticed you haven't ordered Mark IV plans yet.....GET THOSE PLANS and start building something
Two more weeks and counting. That's when we move, and then I'll be able to order CozyIV plans to the new address.

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Old 06-11-2007, 09:34 PM
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Two more weeks and counting. That's when we move, and then I'll be able to order CozyIV plans to the new address.

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:05 PM
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Uh...the baggage pads are attached to hardpoints that you install into the wings.
How do you do this (i.e. get good anchorage) without messing up the finished wing skin too much?

To give myself the option of adding pods later on without a lot of fuss, I'd like to install hardpoints under the skin. The weight penalty should be minimal (in case I never use them), but if/when I do decide to get pods, it would be a simple matter of drilling and tapping. Are there any pod installation instructions/plans available to share, which would enable me to do this? I'd need (1) accurate attachment point locations, and (2) the prescribed attachment method so I can figure out a pre-skin equivalent.

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:31 PM
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Scroll down about half way, you'll find the baggage pod PDF file there.

http://www.iflyez.com/Placards.shtml

The only recommendation I could make is to do the cuff layups while the wings are off. The cuffs will be a lot easier to make with the wing pointing staight up.

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:32 PM
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I'm not up to speed on the installation approach. I've seen the hardpoints after a retro-fit when the baggage pads were removed. All you see is a few holes for a screw. Doesn't detract from the plane's cosmetics.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:03 PM
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Scroll down about half way, you'll find the baggage pod PDF file there.

http://www.iflyez.com/Placards.shtml

The only recommendation I could make is to do the cuff layups while the wings are off. The cuffs will be a lot easier to make with the wing pointing staight up.

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Old 06-12-2007, 07:21 AM
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I like the idea of metal plates in the wing, HOWEVER:

When the holes are drilled and taped, make sure the pod mount hole doesn't expose the blue foam to the outside world. Fuel spillage, cleaning agents, etc, could now get into the the pod holes and eat away the blue foam wing cores. Very bad.

If you look at the aluminum mount plugs that the instructions call out you'll see that the hole is NOT drilled all the way through.

ALSO, When I made mine, I made them 1 1/2 inch long and knurled the outside edges for better grip. No problems

COZY GIRRRLS - Do you make these aluminum thingys for the baggage pods?????

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Old 06-12-2007, 10:35 AM
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Haven't there been some unusual mods to the baggage pods? I thought I read somewhere that someone had added some fuel cells in the BPs for extending the range...
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:57 PM
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My favorite Baggage pod mod:

Every year, a large group of EZs would (and still do) meet at Jackpot Nevada on the 4th of July Weekend.

This annual event was one in a series of R.A.C.E. (Rutan And Composite Enthusiast) events that was coordinated by Shirl Dickey (of E-Racer fame)

This gathering always had numerous flying activities, formation flying, acrobatics, ride giving, racing, and my personal favorite, "The Ribbon Cut".

For those unfamiliar with a "Ribbon Cut", it works like this:

Get a couple rolls of Toilet Paper, climb into a plane and climb to the "starting" altitude (4,000 AGL). The EZ that is going to be doing the "cutting" positions itself 1,000 ft behind and a couple hundred feet below the TP airplane. "Official Observers" on the ground keep track of the number of cuts.

When everyone is ready, the TP plane tosses out a roll of TP. As the TP falls, it slowly unrolls and forms a long "ribbon".

The objective for the EZ cutting plane is to twist, turn, loop, roll, or whatever, in order to cut through the "ribbon" as many times as possible, before reaching 1,500 AGL. I won't go into my "strategy" as this is classified TIP TOP SECRET (If I don't win, I'm usually in second place)

Keep in mind that this competition requires something that NO EZ can do: The ability to "toss out a roll of TP". (Its hard to get the canopy back closed, and the timing has to be impeccable to keep the meat grinder from shredding the roll of TP)

UNTIL NOW

One year, Barry Weber (flew an EZ out of Livermore CA) shows up with a TP dispenser. Barry, I think he had a little to much free time on his hands, built a screw type dispenser that fit into a standard baggage pod.

The Dispenser was "remote Controlled" from the cockpit. Barry would point the clicker at the pod, Hit the "CHANNEL UP" button on the TV remote, and out came a roll of TP from the back of the baggage pod.

I used to joke with him that the only reason he came up with this, was so he could secretly practice the "ribbon Cut" in hopes of beating me.

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:27 PM
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I love it! I'd like to see a drawing or photos of his mechanism!

But loops and rolls in a CANARD?!?!? Doesn't sound like a good idea...
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:06 PM
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But loops and rolls in a CANARD?!?!? Doesn't sound like a good idea...
Read the archives-but...rolls, loops o.k- just no hammerheads and the like, double Immelmans, outside loops, inverted maneuvers etc NoGo.

Not an aerobatic airplane- butits not stuckwith level flight.

[although I plan to roll- I don't plan on looping.] I'mloopy enough already.

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Old 06-14-2007, 04:23 PM
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I normally tell prospective pilots, zero airspeed maneuvers (hammerhead) should NOT be performed, unless you have the internal bellhorn rudders, AND 10,000 ft of altitude to recover.

I've never performed a hammerhead in an EZ i.e.

Everything else is perfectly do-able, in a safe a repeatable manner.

Personally, I've never seen an airplane that was NOT acrobatic.

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Read the archives

Read the POH...

-but...rolls, loops o.k- just no hammerheads and the like, double Immelmans, outside loops, inverted maneuvers etc NoGo.

Not an aerobatic airplane- butits not stuckwith level flight.

[although I plan to roll- I don't plan on looping.] I'mloopy enough already.

Correctmeif I'm wrong.
Consider yourself corrected. The maneuvers permitted according to the documentation I have do not include loops and rolls.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:29 PM
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I normally tell prospective pilots, zero airspeed maneuvers (hammerhead) should NOT be performed, unless you have the internal bellhorn rudders, AND 10,000 ft of altitude to recover.

I've never performed a hammerhead in an EZ i.e.

Everything else is perfectly do-able, in a safe a repeatable manner.

Personally, I've never seen an airplane that was NOT acrobatic.

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Probably the last thing that went through the head of the pilot who killed himself and his five pax when he attempted to roll his Baron recently...

Just because it's POSSIBLE to do something doesn't make it SENSIBLE.

From the OFFICIAL Cozy FAQ:

Q. May I do aerobatics in a Mark IV?

A. No! The Mark IV is rated in the normal category. It was designed for economical, high-speed, cross- country flying. It cannot do stall or inverted maneuvers and picks up speed rapidly when pointed down. Aerobatics are not recommended.
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John - you scare the bejeebers outa me.

But after i have 2 or 300 hours in my cozy, i will beg you to take me inverted in your long and teach me how to recover!

the guy i was going to use died doing a teardrop take off and landing

I keep his card in my wallet to remind me of the dangers
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