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Old 09-05-2007, 12:02 AM
Lynn Erickson Lynn Erickson is offline
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Very tragic loss of life, I met him once while he was building, but I don't understand how is there six in a Lancair IV

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Old 09-05-2007, 08:37 AM
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Four stuffed in the back. Aft CG stall? Saw it once here in MI when a pilot took his family camping. Kids and gear in the back. Takeoff was fine, couldn't land it.

I hate hearing this stuff. He was probably a good pilot. I always wonder if the "oh sh**" goes through their head when at the last minute he knows, as a good pilot, he missed one thing or just remembered one rule too late. Nature and physics have no mercy. It sucks.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:14 AM
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Very tragic loss of life, I met him once while he was building, but I don't understand how is there six in a Lancair IV

http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7026512
According to the "tribute" web page and the FAA registration database, it was a Columbia 400, not a Lancair IV - not a homebuilt, a certificated aircraft. He didn't build it.

As far as six folks goes, two of them were very small children. It's certainly possible that he was still within W&B limits, although the seatbelt situation can't possibly have been legal.

The description of the accident sounds like a stall/spin on climbout after a go-round. The valley near the Kern Valley Airport is extremely narrow, with hills on either side that are hundreds of feet above the airport, with very little room to turn around. Pull up, turn too tight... Done.

Landing there was interesting, in gusty winds, to say the least.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:36 AM
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Pull up, turn too tight... Done.
Can't count how many times that scenario has taken lives. Two things driven in my head when I was learning:

1) 500 AGL at takeoff, choose the alternate airstrip straight ahead. Don't turn around.

2) Watch you airspeed, watch your airspeed, watch your airspeed.
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