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Old 07-08-2004, 12:22 AM
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Default Jet Cozy takes to the air

Life requires fantasies too...

Greg's Jet 'Cozy'

Note, Nat says he can still call it a Cozy.
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:08 PM
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:35 PM
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Greg lives just a country mile away from me. He has graciously offered to take me up... but after my experience with the ex Navy fighter pilot in the Cozy III at Rough River (posted somewhere in here) I'm not certain I'm going to take him up on his offer. (where is the pukey faced green smiley?)

I must be getting old. I used to love that kind of stuff!
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Old 05-06-2005, 07:04 PM
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I've always admired Greg's ability to get it done.

I wonder though what he increased his fuel capacity to, what his current range is, etc. At full power it would take about 60 lbs fuel/hr. In the pics it looks like theres something behind him (he has a hat resting on the tray back there) could it be a 200 lb fuel cell?

4500 ft/min climb. I bet that will be a fun plane to fly when he's explored the envelope a bit.
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Old 05-06-2005, 07:47 PM
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I wonder though what he increased his fuel capacity to, what his current range is, etc. At full power it would take about 60 lbs fuel/hr. In the pics it looks like theres something behind him (he has a hat resting on the tray back there) could it be a 200 lb fuel cell?
60 lb/hr is barely 10 gal/hr - __I__ burn more than that with my O-360. I think you mean gallons where you write "lbs". IIRC, Greg told me that he burns about 30 GAL/hr. in cruise, and has about a 3-4 hour endurance. 60 gal/hr at full power down low is not at all inconceivable. His plane is a modified COZY III, and the whole rear seat area has been replaced with a gas tank. 200 lb would be about 33 gallons - I think the tank is larger than that.

If Greg is paying attention here, I'm sure he can fill in all the relevant details, but I think I'm close.
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Old 05-07-2005, 02:15 PM
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thanks Marc, yeah I did mean 60 gal/hr, damn engineering units
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I'm not the kind of guy who is stuck on thinking inside the box, but I have to ask why one would triple engine cost and fuel consumption, lower your cargo capacity/passenger seating, while not increasing your top speed by more than a tiny bit.
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I'm not the kind of guy who is stuck on thinking inside the box, but I have to ask why one would triple engine cost and fuel consumption, lower your cargo capacity/passenger seating, while not increasing your top speed by more than a tiny bit.
Style? Cool? Because he could?
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:14 PM
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Because others told him he could not
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:40 PM
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Old 05-08-2005, 12:03 AM
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I'm not the kind of guy who is stuck on thinking inside the box, but I have to ask why one would triple engine cost and fuel consumption, lower your cargo capacity/passenger seating, while not increasing your top speed by more than a tiny bit.
I suspect because this is not where Greg is going to stop. He's a pretty sharp animal. Greg put this engine into a Cozy (III?) so he had an already proven airframe to test this engine installation.

Next step will be a real experimental jet plane, which a neat EFIS panel, that can make full use of the performance of the T-58 engine.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:45 AM
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It would be nice to see how far the Long/cozy platform can be taken in terms of speed
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Old 05-08-2005, 07:39 AM
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Who ever said that "cool" and "practical" had to exist in the same sentence? :-)
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Old 05-08-2005, 12:39 PM
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Who ever said that "cool" and "practical" had to exist in the same sentence? :-)
this is a cool vid,the cost ? just 2 time the mark 4......for a extra 90k you can get the fast build kit.
can't upload it so go to http://www.viper-aircraft.com/images/VJflyby.wmv and play the vid(dust can you get it to upload here ?)
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Have you guys seen this months Popular Science with the Jet Racer Canards on the cover?? Pretty sweet looking machines!! I bet they're fast as all get out!!

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