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Old 08-31-2006, 05:09 PM
Ron Springer Ron Springer is offline
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Old 08-31-2006, 05:19 PM
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Old 09-01-2006, 12:00 AM
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I agree mostly with Wayne (after the corrections to airspace definitions). I can't legally ride my bicycle on the interstate for good reason. if your only criteria for flying is how cheap it is, there is still a lot of sky available after you exclude the congested spots. transponders are not nearly as expensive as they used to either, the cost of the destroyed glider and the repairs to the bizjet would buy a whole bunch of them!
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Old 09-01-2006, 12:30 AM
Lynn Erickson Lynn Erickson is offline
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Originally Posted by Wayne Hicks

Again, I remit that I don't know if the glider/jet collision occurred in a victor airway. However, we now know the glider had a transponder. Interesting.
I 'm not a rules expert but the way I read part 91.215 if you have a transponder you better use it. I do remember a case of a glider pilot getting a formal waring for not using his transponder while above 10,000 ft over uncontroled airspace. this was many years ago and rules do change. the glider was certified for IFR and that could make a difference and in that case a dead battery is not an excuse.
This is my opinion of these facts and only my opinion, your opinion may vary

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Old 09-01-2006, 01:19 AM
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I flew VFR right over Auckland at 9,500ft on mode A and they didnt even blink. They talked to me on the radio kinda, um, funny, though.. sort of with pauses like they were talking to someone else at the same time.. but there was no angry "GET THEE FROM HENCE!!" type comms. I dont recall if I was "identified" but I expect I was.

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Old 09-01-2006, 07:55 AM
Wayne Hicks Wayne Hicks is offline
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I haven't scanned the sectional for Carson City at, but I imagine the AGL is quite high there because of the mountain ridges. If the glider was at 16K and the mountains are at 10K (example only), then the glider isn't really that high in the air! I'd consider the jet a little low!
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Old 09-01-2006, 08:38 AM
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I have a lot of time flying around in that area. There used to be an area near Minden that the Class A did not start until FL600 ( I think there were two of these in the CONUS).

ALSO, This is a direct approach / departure path into Reno. Basically, if you west of 395, then you better keep your eyes open for high speed jet traffic. This far south of Reno, I would expect routine approach/departure traffic to be at or about 16,000 to 18,000.

I'm sure the glider folks are aware of this, but someone just wasn't watching.

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