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Old 05-29-2007, 08:23 PM
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Default Chapter 5: Infinity Retracts

I'm wrapping up chapter 5. I don't see any reason to do the extra layups between the firewall and the rear seatback due to the fact that I am not using the fixed gear (thus no fixed gear mounts.)

Would there be any reason I would not want to take this course of action?
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:04 PM
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You may wish to put them in anyways. They won't add much weight, if you sell your plane (or project), the next builder/buyer may want to install fixed gear, and most importantly, you don't have the infinity gear in hand, and might not get it.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:03 PM
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I agree with ShaleDC on this one!

ALSO, If you did elect to leave out the "pads" that the fixed gear attach points mount onto, I would at least do the other layups in this area.

This particular area of a LongEZ is doing a lot of load transfering.

Loads from the engine, wings (centerspar), fuselage, and the fixed gear are transfered back and forth.

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For clarification: Because I am not using the LMGA assembly for the fixed gear, I am considering leaving out the additional 15 ply layup in the third frame of this graphic. It seems as though the only purpose is to mount that assembly,
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Hey Waiter!
I was putting my post together while you were posting your answer.
I was talking with J D Sunday and should have mentioned it then. I know he'll be unavailable for a few days. I may just work around this until I chat with him next.

If it comes down to it, I'll put them in but considering weight & strength, I would think that 4-5 additional layups as shown in frame 2 of my graphic would pay larger dividends.
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I'm wrapping up chapter 5. I don't see any reason to do the extra layups between the firewall and the rear seatback due to the fact that I am not using the fixed gear (thus no fixed gear mounts.)

Would there be any reason I would not want to take this course of action?
Waiter.......any input?
you can do them much later
i still need to add them. it will be hard but doable
my 2 cents is do them now and forget about it
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Build it per plans, without the retracts you have a lawn ornament, if you change your mind, you have a lawn ornament, unless your buyer wants infinity retracts..you guessed it, you have a lawn ornament.
Now tell us why it would hurt to put in the layups per plans?
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:52 PM
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Now tell us why it would hurt to put in the layups per plans?
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Go ahead Chrissi-[nudging your elbow]somebody ought to tell all the Infinity retract 'hopefuls' the real deal about them.
...and it hasn't gotten any better...
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:31 AM
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Like what I think matters?
Reality is reality.
I AM glad he is out of the hospital...and do hope he is recuperating.
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Dennis,
The "real deal" about the Infinity Retracts is they are now superbly built. If JD does not have the gear on the shelf ready to ship be prepared to wait, how long that is is between the customer and JD. Unfortunately things like his retractable gear involve a lot of precision machine work, a lot of expensive materials and in order to get a reasonable price also requires that he make a purchase of many parts at the same time.
I'm guessing he's not rolling in money so he requires X number of deposits to bankroll the manufacturing of the parts. Discuss it with JD.
JD supports his products well after you get them.
Right now, give him a break; he's probably got a long recovery ahead of him.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:03 PM
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I was once a newbie. A Starry eyed guy with feverish rapidity mentally 'modding' this and that, and oh yea, GOTTA CHANGE this...to the Mark IV.
By and by, seems most folks settle down into some sort of-what I am REALLY going to do-groove that is comfortable...and I was no exception.
One thing that cured me of my I.R. fixation was YOUR difficulty in attempting to get your gear you had ordered a lonnnnng time [years] previously. Seems people are still waiting. Many other disparaging remarks, by others here, about the subject that I chose now not to say anything about. Still don't. I figure those who send money thought should have an idea up front about what happens. Thats all. Seemed from your earlier post...well, forget it.

And I do hope he recovers and becomes healthier. Nice guy and great salesman.
Delivery after deposit?...go read the old and recent archives.
If things have changed...very good.
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I have read it and I'm pretty tired of hearing it and yes, I know all about the other when he was forced down on the west side of town here after all the fuel ran out of the EZ-Sieve he was flying. Damned lucky to have survived it as I recall from the local press accounts of the time.

Your mission is complete now.......so, can we move on?

The subject here was if the extra layups would be required on not since I'm installing the Infinity R/G.
I don't know what happened to your post but I had it clipped as a quote and here it is...above.

5 times you refer to yourself in the above post. My post wasn't about YOU. It was about the over 100 people who posted in Drew's, 'Haven't started -etc- building yet', post. [the other 8 categories instead of the last two building or flying categories]
I think you personalized the whole thread a little bit. Theres a lot of prebuilders who are here.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:09 PM
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what???? Where did that come from?

I thinks we've been HIGHJACKED!
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:21 PM
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I am considering leaving out the additional 15 ply layup in the third frame of this graphic. It seems as though the only purpose is to mount that assembly
Your analysis makes sense to me. These could easily be added later if it becomes necessary.

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