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Old 04-29-2004, 06:32 PM
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Tanks Jimbus,very usefull the total cost of the material is around 9000$ ,not bad . RAky...Miami
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The latest catalog from ASS shows:
Book 1: 6522.70
Book 2: 2026.90

Add another 3k from <broke> Brock, then an engine etc

I don't know if they omit anything from their pricing like epoxy - say 2000 for that!

So - somewhere in the 13.5 range for the airframe.

I'm estimating 6-7 for instruments and radios EM2 + Dynon D-10 + compass, and another 6-7 for the engine (Rotary).

So somewhere about 30?

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Old 04-29-2004, 08:40 PM
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Add another 3k from Broke
You probably mean Brock. Some of this can be saved by making metal parts yourself, if you have the skills and equipment.

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omit anything from their pricing like epoxy - say 2000 for that!
Nah. Way too much. It would be really hard to waste enough to spend more than $800 - $900 on epoxy & hardener.

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So - somewhere in the 13.5 range for the airframe.
Add in a nose-lift and a few extra goodies like an electric speed brake and trim. Tough to stay under $15k, but possible.

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and another 6-7 for the engine (Rotary).
Did you include the redrive and prop? Together these are almost $5k

Don't forget fittings. I must have spent almost $1k on fittings & hoses.
And the initial supplies & tools. Easy to spend a grand here.

Also, I must have spend going on for $1k on shipping.

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So somewhere about 30?
I'm not saying it can't be done, but I think it will probably end up closer to $45. Don't worry about it. It'll cost whatever it costs. If it costs more than you expected, it'll just take a little longer. No big deal.
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Old 04-29-2004, 10:38 PM
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OOps - slip of the tongue there.

I figured 18-20 Gallons for my estimate at $100US / gallon - I could be off there, but it shouldn't be by much - don't the plans estimate 28 gallons including structural and fill?

Forgot about the nose-lift - add $500 over Brock parts - electric brake and trim - ?500 more?

Yes, I included my re-drive, but not the prop. The engine was well priced, and my neighbour will be verifying the engine etc.

Shipping is an item - probably double or triple for me (Canada) - as is customs and taxes, but that won't apply to most builders here. That's a business expense and not part of the aircraft.

Tools are important - but not exclusive to a project (usually)
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Old 04-29-2004, 10:41 PM
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$800 for epoxy will only get you half of what you need if you're lucky. I just bought 10 gallons plus hardner. $800 including tax, but that was no duty or hazmat shipping.

Don't Velo's have the same thinhs all canards have? Wings, elevators, canards, brakes, wings, etc, etc. Are we going to repeat the same sections for Aerocanards, SQ2000's, LE's, VE's...?

I think we can all learn from each other.
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Old 04-29-2004, 11:07 PM
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I figured 18-20 Gallons
don't the plans estimate 28 gallons including structural and fill?
$800 for epoxy will only get you half of what you need
Whaaaat!
Maybe old age is catching up with me, but I'd swear I didn't use more than 8 or 9 gallons for the whole plane, including finishing.

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Forgot about the nose-lift - add $500 over Brock parts - electric brake and trim - ?500 more?
I'd say the nose lift will be a little more, especially if you get the nice WIlhelmson one. The electric brake and trim should be $250 tops.

My Performance prop was well over $2k. I think Catto's are around $1800.

I was thinking of the epoxy pump, bench, hot box, smart level, epoxy accessories (squeeges, mixing sticks, cups). Then of course, better allow for about 3 dremels.
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Old 04-30-2004, 12:28 AM
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A lot of money! but not imposible like John say maybe more longer,in my case I can make a lot of parts miself incluid the engine (no reddrive)
lesson learned:money is important but most important in start soon
Thanks again!
Raky Miami.
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Old 04-30-2004, 02:06 AM
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Default Cost - $15K MINIMUM

I think the $15K figure is not completely realistic for the airframe. I included in my costs everything that went into the airframe - including wood for jigs, tools (love my Fein), and supplies. I also went with the electric front gear and landing brake - that adds a couple $K. I think that it's closer to $18-$20K by the time everything gets added in. That's completely without engine and any instruments or avionics.

Because I've got a rotary my engine costs are a little cheaper than a Lycosaurus - but I get no breaks on instruments - so I'm still figuring about $45K when I'm all done.

Right now if I didn't have to sand any more I'd pay just about anything!!!! Does the Velocity come pretty much finished on the outside?
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I can make a lot of parts miself incluid the engine (no reddrive)
Don't keep us in suspense.What are you planning to power it with?

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Right now if I didn't have to sand any more I'd pay just about anything!!!!
Stop whining, Joe. You'll discourage all the newbies.

The sanding is just part of the process, and very satisfying (when you look back on it). I think Chris said his velo kit was $27k. There is still quite a bit of finishing needed with a Velocity, and I hear the total build takes about the same time. Anyway, I'd do (did) a lot of sanding for $12k and 30kts.
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Old 04-30-2004, 08:51 AM
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Engine?f course ZUM-ZUM-ZUM.............
 


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